{"rss":{"xmlns:jf":"http://www.jivesoftware.com/xmlns/jiveforums/rss","channel":{"item":[{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"San Francisco, CA","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"Mike, ditto. The U.S. is in the habit of accusing other countries of actions that are apparently ok when the U.S. itself performs similar actions. From reconnaissance missions to satellite destruction, other \"military maneuvers,\" and now this. The U.S. govt needs to get over itself, or another fall will follow this Roman Empire.","jf:author":"Carina","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:36:24 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=437216&tstart=0#437216","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"florida, usa","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"Why don't they hack into my bank and make my mortgage disappear?","jf:author":"cindy","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:32:30 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=437221&tstart=0#437221","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"Florida","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"There is no difference in this as TREASON is the same thing. No cowtowing! Take the traitors out period....","jf:author":"Robert","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:31:11 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=437183&tstart=0#437183","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"Washington D.C.","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"..of course, there is nothing we can do about it..because Democrats want to protect the privacy of terrorists too...","jf:author":"bobo","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:30:26 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=437206&tstart=0#437206","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"CA","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"They may have hacked an unclass system, big deal, yet another reason not to run Windows. Let's hear if they hacked a secret or higher network - which isn't connected to the Internet - therefore an order of magnitude harder.","jf:author":"Sam","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:26:54 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=437175&tstart=0#437175","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"Jawja","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"Nothing in this world is secure.","jf:author":"Izzboshein","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:22:55 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=437145&tstart=0#437145","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"VA","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"Please...The US is always under constant attack from hackers from all over the world. Chinese hackers are no different from other hackers throughout the world.","jf:author":"Patrick","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:22:44 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=437143&tstart=0#437143","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"Il","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"It's irrelevant whether we do it also.We don't want it done to us. This is a serious issue that needs to be addressed. They could possibly shut down utilities, destroy financial records, God knows what kind of damage they could do.","jf:author":"Ross","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:21:12 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=437165&tstart=0#437165","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"TX","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"They are pretty stupid to be bragging about hacking into the Pentagon... thats a good way to have an \"errant\" cruise missle to come crashing into your house... the US can just blow it off and say they were doing some \"testing\" and there was an \"error\"","jf:author":"JT","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:17:28 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=437162&tstart=0#437162","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:04:16 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"Chicago","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"Hacking a website is not the same as compromising secure servers and is not the same as having someone's internal PC. \"Downloading\" information from the Pentagon is as vague as possible and can me something as trivial (useless) as the source code for the various outward facing Pentagod, DoD websites. Big deal. Sensitive networks and infrastructure exist not only behind firewalls but also on separate fiber/networks that are not Internet connected (not hackable online).<br /><br />Again, websites being hacked by script-kiddies and \"pros\" are not as important to the Pentagon since there information is not Internet accessible.","jf:author":"Robert","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 16:11:35 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:10:00 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436850&tstart=0#436850","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:10:00 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"denver","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"Is anyone naive enough to think that the U.S. doesn't engage in this same sort of situation?","jf:author":"mike","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:21:01 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:23:36 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436696&tstart=0#436696","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:23:36 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"D.C.","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"Of course they couldn't be arrested ed...there is no proof...","jf:author":"Janie","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:20:26 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:23:36 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436635&tstart=0#436635","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:23:36 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"Sault Ste. Marie, Ont. Canada","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"I'm sure the U.S. and Canada have as many \"smart hackers\" as the Chinese, probably smarter because they don't brag about it.","jf:author":"Anne","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:18:20 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:23:36 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436634&tstart=0#436634","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:23:36 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"Washington, DC","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"As an employee of a federal agency that routinely handles highly sensitive information, I assure you that these guys are a bunch of chumps. Classified databases are on stand-alone servers. There is no internet connectivity to any of them. If they hack the Pentagon or other government websites, they may be afforded the opportunity to submit a car pool application for a parking space in lot B or apply for a course on Diversity training. If they come across anything classifed, it is probably a government disinformation program.","jf:author":"Jeff","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:16:22 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:23:36 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436672&tstart=0#436672","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:23:36 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"new britian","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"shouldn't these \"hackers\" have been arrested? if we have someone from the u.s. reporting this, wouldn't it make sense to have these guys arrested for hacking into the pentagons files? they're thieves.","jf:author":"ed","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:44:00 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:48:35 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436573&tstart=0#436573","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:48:35 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"conshohocken","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"Hackers, crackers, and other self-appointed crusaders against 'weak security' are the biggest bunch of blow hards and liars in the world. <br /><br />However it's no surprise that CNN and other media outlets regularly give them the coverage their egos crave. <br /><br />Evil Geniuses make good copy. <br /><br />[sigh]","jf:author":"spike","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:42:02 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:48:35 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436543&tstart=0#436543","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:48:35 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"Scottsdale AZ","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"Scott Henderson has a very good book out about the subject<br />of Chinese hackers, in which he details much of the culture and mindset<br />of this subgroup, called \"The Dark Visitor\" for anyone who is interested","jf:author":"Christopher","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:40:18 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:48:35 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436556&tstart=0#436556","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:48:35 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"New Hampshire","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"A true hacker would never boast about breaking into the Pentagon. A good card counter never boasts about counting. These guys maybe talented, I'll give them that. However, I highly doubt that they gave a truthful interview.","jf:author":"Ben","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:38:00 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:48:35 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436555&tstart=0#436555","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:48:35 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"va","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"Every government participates in hacking other country's high-level security website to get information, including US. Take that as a fact and the only thing US can do is to build a better, safer web.","jf:author":"Viv","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:37:44 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:48:35 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436538&tstart=0#436538","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:48:35 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"New Jersey","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"I laugh at some comments. The best one being: \"I also doubt the validity of their claims\". This American-Hubris is what is killing this nation. We're not invincible, and we are not the best. Let's improve. End of story.","jf:author":"Rafael","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:25:22 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:46:06 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436549&tstart=0#436549","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:46:06 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"N.Y.","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"I agree with Andy. I am reitired military and any classified and sensitive information is on a Intranet which cannot be accessed by the outside word. Pretty much stand alone servers. Also sensitive information is usually encrypted. These guys are watching to many movies. I will say one thing, the chinese do like to steal technology because they are not smart enough to come up with it on their own.","jf:author":"K-Dawg","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:25:14 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:46:06 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436564&tstart=0#436564","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:46:06 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"Toronto","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"\"In response to the attacks, my team of USA based hackers launched our own attacks against some of China's highest security websites. After probing deep into the depths of the most valued secrets of the Chinese governments most secure files, all we found was the design patters of a Louis Vutton handpurse knock-offs and the 11 secret herbs and spices of KFC chicken.\"<br /><br />This comment is just precious! LOL.","jf:author":"Louise Futon","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:25:13 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:46:06 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436548&tstart=0#436548","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:46:06 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"usa","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"silly silly little boys... ANY system connected to the public internet is a potential target of malicious intent. even the 'hackers' can be 'cracked'. anytime a 'system' has the ability to 'permit or deny' access it is 'hackable'. the u.s. government needs to wake up and disconnect from the 'public' internet. this huge rush to get 'online' is just inviting problems. if you don't want it to be a target remove it from the enviroment. any 'advisor' that recommends to connect a 'critical' system to the internet should be fired on the the spot. if you don't want to get attacked don't connect to the internet.","jf:author":"rob","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:20:39 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:46:06 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436485&tstart=0#436485","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:46:06 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"bp","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"if your a good hacker, people know it. if your a great hacker....no one knows you exist","jf:author":"J - Z","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:20:28 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:46:06 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436525&tstart=0#436525","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:46:06 -0500"},{"jf:replyCount":"0","jf:date":"Mar 7, 2008","jf:location":"Chicago, Illinois","title":"TECH//2008/TECH/03/07/china.hackers/index.html","description":"WHAT JERKS! They say \" 'Know about both yourself and the enemy, and you will be invincible.'\"<br /><br />Exactly how are we, the American people, their enemies? We're just trying to live our lives like everyone else in the world. Leave us alone. This type of thing makes me want to vote for someone who will shut down all immigration to the U.S. and shut down all global trade and economics. Just shut the doors entirely, shut down all websites and do things the way we used to. That would take all the fun away from these stealing, lying, manipulative hacks. I hope they know they have to answer to God one day, and not the American people. Oh that's right, they probably don't believe in God.","jf:author":"Jenny","jf:creationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:19:55 -0500","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:46:06 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments/thread.jspa?messageID=436524&tstart=0#436524","jf:modificationDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 14:46:06 -0500"}],"title":"CNN User Comments: Message List - TECH","description":"Most recent forum messages","pubDate":"Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:18:17 -0500","link":"http://cnnp8app1/comments","generator":"Jive Forums Silver 5.0.5 (www.jivesoftware.com)","language":"en"},"version":"2.0"}}