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William Wallace

II

Member

posted 12-05-2000 08:52 AM

We live in a completely pussified nation.

We could get every man, real man as opposed to pussified James Dobson knock-off crying

Promise Keeping homoerotic worship loving mama's boy sensitive emasculated neutered

exact male replica evangellyfish, and have a conference in a phone booth. It all began with

Adam, the first of the pussified nation, who kept his mouth shut and watched everything fall

headlong down the slippery slide of hell/feminism when he shut his mouth and listened to

his wife who thought Satan was a good theologian when he should have lead her and

exercised his delegated authority as king of the planet. As a result, he was cursed for

listening to his wife and every man since has been his pussified sit quietly by and watch a

nation of men be raised by bitter penis envying burned feministed single mothers who make

sure that Johnny grows up to be a very nice woman who sits down to pee.

So, Johnny hits youth group one day to hear from his pussified youth pastor that he should

perfect his virginity and dating skills. So Johnny tries to be a loving and patient man who

looks for a nice woman like mom who will whip him into shape and beat him into submission

so that he can one day join a men's accountability group and learn how to keep his urges

under control, which just causes him to be earn a B.A. in masturbation, M.A. in porno, and

PhD in knuckleheadology as Johnny is now so terrified of women and his own penis that he

sits in his room alone each night on the internet hoping to get some (with the occasional

"falling into sin" with a woman as they inevitabaly cross "boundaries" of intimacy) because

he's so afraid of women and has no idea how to take one, or love one, or serve one, or take

one to bed and make the Song of Songs sing again.

One day Johnny finally gives in to the pressure of his pre-humpers singles ministry and gets

stuck with some gal left on the shelf long after her expiration date that is just like dear old

mom who wants him to shut up like Adam, take his beating, and join a church men's group

that is really a woman's group in disguise complete with cookies and crying and

antidepressants to cope with the insanity.

Poor Johnny is by now so completely whacked that he's afraid of having kids and hold off his

taking on any more responsibility as long as he can because Johnny is a boy trapped in a

man's body walking around in a world of other boys all trying to keep their pee pee behind

their zipper and do just like their momma told them and be good women.

And so the culture and families and churches sprint to hell because the men aren't doing

their job and the feminists continue their rant that it's all our fault and we should just let

them be pastors and heads of homes and run the show. And the more we do, the more hell

looks like a good place because at least a man is in charge, has a bit of order and let's men

spit and scratch as needed. And all their whining and fighting is nothing more than further

evidence that we are still kings and unless we do our job everyone and everything is getting

screwed except Johnny (metaphorically speaking of course).

I know many of the women will disagree, and they like Eve should not speak on this matter.

And, many men will also disagree, which is further proof of the pussified epidemic having

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now become air born and universal.

Pussified men are inarguably legion.

Nothing short of an exorcism is needed.

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hopeful

Member

posted 12-05-2000 12:22 PM

Yo Will,

man you gonna bust your aorta if ya keep going on like this. Try ta relax man.

Peace

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ReformUrAss

Member

posted 12-05-2000 10:07 PM

WALLACE! WALLACE! WALLACE!

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Butterfly

Junior Member

posted 12-05-2000 11:33 PM

. . . I think I just met my future husband. Thanks, Wallace. . .

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William Wallace

II

Member

posted 12-06-2000 01:15 PM

Todays rant is in response to the insanities paining me today in this very moment of my

inner Fight Club. Scrolling through the rest of the midrash section it is obvious that the

pussification stock market has spiked at an all time high in recent months.

Can I be a gay Christian? In the infamous words of the now metaphysically challenged and

likely kindling ex-pentecostal pastor Sam Kinison "How can one man look at another man's

hairy ass and find love?" What an insane conversation. Every man knows you can't build

anything with bolts and bolts. Damn freaks. And the pastel cashmere wearing sensible

haircut clean shaven loafer wearing minivan driving suburban sympathizers contend "But

they really really love each other." I love dogs, but I don't stick my tongue in their mouth

and lobby congress for a tax deductible union. "But we need to be nice." What the hell for?

A man is free to knock boots with any sad hairy lump of clay desperate enough to climb in

the sheets and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that total depravity is an understatement,

but what the hell you want from me? Should we form some form of homo Promise Keepers

so we can all climb into a stadium and hug each other and cry like damn junior high girls

watching Dawson's Creek. I'd tell you to kiss my ass, but I'm afraid you'd take me up on it.

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A_Corinthian

Member

posted 12-06-2000 01:26 PM

I have seen the light. No more calvin klien theology for me

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William Wallace

II

Member

posted 12-06-2000 02:16 PM

Comrades, today we will continue our de-pussification war with the launching of the Manly

Man Award. As your self-appointed king I will of course decide who receives the Manly Man

Award, but like all good kings you subjects are welcome to post your nominations. However,

women are not allowed to post anyone except their husband or father and I will expect

ample evidence that they indeed are Manly Men. If you should, for example, make the

tragic mistake of nominating your husband because he does the laundry or some such thing

then I will immediately respond with a rant upon you and grant you the Foolish Female

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Award.

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knowah

Junior Member

posted 12-06-2000 02:41 PM

So much that was said was good, however, there was some that I will choose to respond to.

Before you call me a "pussified" male and disregard what I say, I hope you recognize the

circular logic in your reasoning making your statement that I am proof of the "pussified

epidemic becoming air born and universal" being a fallacious one.

Because the points I may or not disagree with you on are most likely a matte of preference

and style, I won't debate those with you, however, I will ask a few questions that you

perhaps have not considered.

Would you have considered Jesus to be "pussified"? Surely He displayed some of the

characteristics you decry. For example, his first miracle was to turn water into wine at His

mother's prompting. Jesus also didn't come out and publicly slam homosexuality and so

many other sins that were rampant in his day that you rant against with such fervor. Jesus

wept, Jesus allowed males to kiss him (Judas), etc. Do you consider Christ to be subject to

this epidemic that has now spread?

I believe I am correct in assuming that you love Ephesians 5:22-24, "Wives be subject to

your own husbands, as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ als is

the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. But as the church is

subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything." But what

about the continuation of this in vs. 25-27, "Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also

loved the church and gave Himself up for her; that He might sanctify her, having cleansed

her by the washing of water with the word, that He might present to Himself the church in

all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she should be holy and

blameless." How did Christ love the church? The most obvious is that He gave up everything

for the church. Do you honestly think that He wanted to live with 33 years of pressure to

never sin, not even once? I know in my life I feel weary resisting temptation, and Christ no

doubt experienced much more temptation than I do (the stakes were higher with Him). Do

you honestly think that He wanted to die for an ungrateful bunch of sinners such as

ourselves? I get pissed when I do something for a kid in my youth group and he doesn't

appreciate it. Christ did that for us, but people blatantly turn around and spit in His face. Do

you think He wanted to turn the other cheek while being beaten? Do you think He really

wanted to let people take His name and then do horrible things in the name of God and

Christ such as the Crusades, slavery,the Holocaust, or so many other wrongs that have

been done in the name of Christ? All these things that Christ most likely did not want to do,

He did for us.

Many of the things you said are right on, but I want to ask, what are you doing to change

these things? It is easy to stand up on a soapbox and rant and rave about how men are

sliding into hell in a tampon box, but what is done about it. Any time that you feel so

passionately about something you should also put your money where your mouth is and act.

I have no clue what you are or are not doing in this area, but I would be interested to find

out. Action that produces results should be something beyond postings on a bulletin board

(where you are faceless) using inflamatory language and false reasoning.

Once again, you make some excellent points, but I would like to point out that Proverbs 15:2

says, "The tounge of the wise makes knowledge acceptable, but the mouth of fools spouts

folly." How acceptable are your words to others. I know of many less thick-skinned than I

who would find your posts offensive, regardless of the amount of truth in them or not.

Remember to couch your message in love, you may have all the wisdom in the world or be

right, but if you do not have love, you have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. How

loving is it to tell people to kiss your ass?

Just some thoughts brother. I'm not looking to pick a fight, although I think I may have just

picked one, but consider what I've said.

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William Wallace

II

Member

posted 12-06-2000 02:44 PM

Youth pastor?

Enough said.

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knowah

Junior Member

posted 12-06-2000 02:47 PM

Not a youth pastor, but I do work with kids, hopefully in an attempt to help them grow up

and become de-pussified.

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William Wallace

II

Member

posted 12-06-2000 02:49 PM

Then work with their fathers.

If they don't have a father, then help their mother get one.

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ReformUrAss

Member

posted 12-06-2000 03:23 PM

I would like to submit my application for the award. Here it is,

-I drive a truck with 4 wheel drive

-I more hair on my chest then the Backstreet Boys have on their bodies

-I like my beer stout and never drink the yellow, fizzy crap

-I think football is a game where you dont get a yellowcard for giving another player a

bodyslam

-I prefer Jonathan Edwards over James Dobson

-I am a Youth Pastor but my kids are inmates in prison and usually can benchpress over

2bills

-My alaby for not having a girl is that i can't stand girls from SPU who can't watch R rated

movies

-I believe in Romans 3:4 - Let God be true and every man a liar

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William Wallace

II

Member

posted 12-06-2000 03:27 PM

Inspired by I Peter 3:1-7, Fight Club, Brave Heart, and American Beauty I have compiled the

rules for a secret men's organization that will not be publicly known for I fear that, like the

Elks, one day women will sue us and demand that they come and play our cards, eat our

wings, drink our ale, smoke our pipes and thereby ruin our lives. We will meet monthly at

undisclosed locations and no man will be allowed to speak about it to anyone, and

newcomers are only permitted to attend if they are sponsored by a member. Our charter

members are currenlty coming together quickly and we will convene after the new year. We

are not a self help group, accountability group, Bible study, or men's ministry. We are a

revolution.

We will combine the best of tobacco, ale, theology, repentance and headship. Our gatherings

will include both married and unmarried men. The unmarried men will in all likelihood be

emotionally beaten until they are strong enough to rise from the dead and thereby prove

their readiness to be like Christ to women and children in an effort to stop the fools parade

of weak self-up addicted unstudied undiscipled self-centered it's all about me and my

feelings so please don't make me sad and hurt 'cause I'm fragile and helpless and will flood

my pillow with tears "men". Funny enough, so far the biggest fans of the concept are

women who want manly men. Real men. Men who know what to do with a Bible, a woman,

and a life and have the courage to get their lazy shrink-to-fit butt off the couch and grow

up.

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A_Corinthian

Member

posted 12-06-2000 03:31 PM

I nominate Abraham, "Father of the jews", for the Manly Man award. My reason??? Any man

at his age who circumcises himself (probably with a blade that wasnt too sharp), is a Manly

Man!!!! Any man who can still get it on with his wife at 100 years old; and have the super

God given sperm to water that barren desert, all without viagra.....is a Manly Man. Any man

who is willing to put God before family......is a Manly Man.

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knowah

Junior Member

posted 12-06-2000 04:58 PM

William, you still have responded to the questions that I have asked. I would be interested to

see how you respond to them. Thus far you have shown that you are good at espousing

your beliefs and labeling people, now let's see how well you can reason out the questions

that I have asked. And before you discount them, remember that as iron sharpens iron, so

one man sharpens another. The purpose of these questions is to make you think and

sharpen you for battle. The entire purpose of this BB is not to just spout off your beliefs and

ignore those who don't agree with you. Check out the introductory page that explains the

purpose and method of midrash. "Learning is conducted in conversational community, with

disagreement and penetrating challenge directed at both student and teacher in an effort to

discover the truth together." Don't try and label me and think that you can dismiss my

thoughts because you disagree with them.

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William Wallace

II

Member

posted 12-06-2000 05:06 PM

"Brace yourself like a man; I will question you, and you shall answer me." Job 38:3

Answer my four questions, and I will in totality answer yours.

1. Are you gay?

2. Are you married?

3. Were you raised in a single parent home?

4. How old are you.

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theslowlearner

Moderator

posted 12-06-2000 05:11 PM

Has anyone speculated that Mr. Wallace may actually be a woman incognito, trying to get a

message to the castrati of the world.

Also, is pussification a reversible disorder? As far as I know emasculation is irreversible.

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knowah

Junior Member

posted 12-06-2000 05:26 PM

William, interesting that you use something that God said in response to Job's line of

questioning. Unless you're God and I've completely missed something, how about you

answer the questions I asked you. I don't mean to lecutre you, but in polite conversation,

one person asks a question and the other person responds with a question. Until you

respond to the questions that I posed to you I'm not going to let you bash my upbringing,

age, or any other thing that I know you would just love to label me with so that you can

discount a view that is contrary to yours.

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William Wallace

II

Member

posted 12-06-2000 05:30 PM

You asked a lot of questions. Most of them rhetorical. I answered what I felt was the only

legitimate one, and I answered it well. And, you painted Jesus to look like some quasi-homo

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who never spoke against doing other guys, was kissed by another guy, always hung out

with other guys and was a really really nice guy who happened to be a divine momma's

boy.

And, in polite conversation you normally know a bit about the person you're speaking to so

you can best frame your responses. So, I'm extending a hand to get to know you. To best

answer your questions I'd need to know your frame of personal reference, including such

things as your age, whether you are single or married, and whether you think Jesus was the

sovereign Lord of the universe or a really hot guy.

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strawberrywine

Junior Member

posted 12-06-2000 10:43 PM

hallelujah! thank goodness that there are manly men out there! i have no idea when it came

into fashion to become the 'sensitive' and emasculated male but i, as a woman, think that it

is terrible and annoying. in a relationship especially, let me tell you, a woman does not need

or want a man playing a womans role. there is something to be said about a man who can

appreciate a woman because she is a woman and not because he can relate (because no

matter how sissy a guy is, he just can't relate). somewhere along the lines there it seems as

though the line between males and female was blurred. men are being dominated, and

many times submitting, to pressures by powerful women and as a result crazy things

happen. like this integration of the military? scuse me, what is that? i went in to try and join

the marines, yes indeed, the toughest branch of the military, mainly because they are the

only branch that knows where women belong and where men belong. now i'm not asking for

men to be total machismo freaks, but i think you have the right idea that men need to go

back to being just that, men. in the Biblical light, it is clear that men are supposed to be the

protectors, providors, elders, teachers, leaders, etc., while women are to submit. some men

take this to extremes (the beaters and abusers of the world) and i believe this may be part

of the reason men are afraid to hold claim to their masculinity. guys, there is a way to be a

strong male without abusing women. in fact, it is only the strong male who knows how to do

these things, the weak one is the one who has to assert his power in a domineering, hurtful

way. way to go guys for being proud that God chose you to be males and for choosing to

act as such. now if you have any ideas on how to spread this ideology to your fellow men,

please spill it!

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Porkfry

Member

posted 12-07-2000 09:05 AM

Hey William....Don't sugar coat it man....tell us how you really feel.

I will be honest that I have lived a "pussified" life for a while. Mainly because I am really

skinny and a strong wind can throw me around like a little sister. Thus giving me the feeling

that I am weak. Enter the "Pussified" part of my life. So what do I do? I start taking Martial

Arts. I will soon be taking 2 different styles. Now by the time I am a black belt in both I will

more than likely still get pushed around by a strong wind but I will be able to pull off some

cool lookin Jackie Chan Stuff as I fly down the street.

I wanted to agree with Wallice. Thats all. No long winded tyrade about why...I just agree.

Along the lined of weather I am actually "pussified" well I have 6 tattoos and I use steel wool

as a sponge when I take a shower. Every morning I start the day off with a large bowl of

broken glass mixed with thumb tacks (for flavor). I use a belt sander to cut my finger and

toe nails. I sleep on a bed of rusty nails and every night for dinner I eat a FAT steak with a

pint of Guinness.

Porkfry

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A_Corinthian

Member

posted 12-07-2000 09:32 AM

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thats a man

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William Wallace

II

Member

posted 12-07-2000 02:20 PM

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Todays Manly Man award goes to the ancient Mesopotamian city of Ur Hippur where it is

believed the art of beer making was birthed 6000 years ago. In honor of this sacred event

the Manly Men have designated a new holiday, from this day forward December 10th will be

forever celebrated as Ur Hippur Day. Please feel free to take today off from work as a

religious holiday and celebrate accordingly by hoisting a pint, or more, in the spirit of

Ecclesiastes 9:7.

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Rev. Tyler

Durden

Junior Member

posted 12-07-2000 02:27 PM

You are not a unique snowflake....... It is time for the Rev. Tyler Durden to weigh in.

I have serious issues with your portrayal of Jesus by Knowah. First of all, Jesus didn't just

shut up and do what his mommy said. He told her "Dear Woman, why do you involve me?"

As for Jesus publically denouncing homosexuality and many other sins: he didn't get that far

down the list. There is a myth out there that Jesus' primary concern is the american nuclear

family and the homosexuals who wage war against it. Jesus cares first and formost about

the Father getting his glory and the Pharisees and Jewish leaders were much more an afront

to that than homosexuals. Jesus weeping at the death of a very good friend is not a sign of

a pussified man. Even William Wallace cried when they killed his wife.

We seem to have this view of a compassionate, "always speaking in love", don't drink smoke

or chew or go with girls who do, Christ. Christ was very compassionate.................. to

women, cripples, blindmen, beggars, leppars. Who he wans't compassionate to was all

pussified men who came to him as though they had all the answers. What about the ass- kicker Jesus who cleared the temple or the guy who publically berated the pharisees and

Jewish leaders with words like "whitewashed tombs" and "brood of vipers" (which I am

positive in their day would have been completely cussing them out).

An amazing portrait of Jesus for all pussified men is in Revelation. Jesus has fire in his eyes,

feet of bronze, a voice like rushing water and double edged sword coming out of his mouth

with which he wages war on idolitors, false gods and the sexually immoral. He rips the vast

majority of the church a new butt hole, lays waste to the nations of the world and judges all

the people. Finally he gets his glory from everyone weather they are willing or not. The

phrase that he uses over and over again as to whom will reign with him in the New

Jeruselam is, "to him who overcomes..." The Tyler Durdem life application study blble

translates that as. "PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS."

There is this idea out there of "you are the potter, I am the clay", "I am a work in progress",

and all kind of other lame ass excuses uttered by pussified, sorry men who never pull their

extended adolescent lives together. That's because nobody ever got in their face and told

them that it is their responsibility before God as a man to pull their head out of their ass

and own their own sin. We do not help these men by coming along side of them and loving

them and "feeling their pain" and letting them know that, if not by the grace of God we

would all be in the same place. The most graceful thing we can do for them is tell them they

are pussified and we will continue to beat their ass untill they stop.

The way you pull your head out of your ass is not through Promise Keepers or accountability

groups. It is through working your ass off in the work of the gospel, losing sleep praying for

pussified men and the womens' lives they have ruined, repenting, refusing to satisfy

yourself sexually through porn, taking a wife and surrounding yourself with men to teach

you and kick your ass when you step out of line.

That is all that the Rev. Tyler Durden has to say for now.

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William Wallace

II

Member

posted 12-07-2000 02:54 PM

Amen. Jesus was not a pussy. He did love the world. By, being beaten, scourged, whipped

and generally having the flesh ripped off his back so he could carry a wooden cross.

Bleeding and nearly naked nailed to a piece of wood and mocked, Jesus took his beating

and took upon Himself the sins of the elect and the ensuing wrath of the Father. Does Jesus

love us? Yes. How? As a manly man.

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Dees Advocate

Junior Member

posted 12-07-2000 03:04 PM

Sooooooo Wally, big funky hunk of burning testosterone that you are, what say you of the

fact that your god, himself, is pussified?

Your biggest problem is not that you live in a completely pussified nation, it's that you're

dedicated to a completely pussified kingdom. And now that you've spread your legs of

allegiance to a completely pussified king, do I understand correctly that you'd like to

surgically reattach His balls through a one off bb rant?

Give me a fucking break.

On the few occasions he asked my advice on whether to go brimstone on the joint, I said,

completely, without a doubt, ride into the capital on a white stallion of flame and justice.

But did he heed my advice? Even give it a passing thought?

Not at all.

The arrogant bastard wouldn’t listen to any of us. He had it stuck in his head that he’d ride

into the capital on a mule – where’s the balls in that. Every time we sat down to eat, he

started going off about bread, wine, and his body.

Is this your idea of a man?

What a pussy.

Wally, my friend, the more you think about it, the more you’re going to realize that you need

to ditch this pansy ass king of yours. We could use a guy like you on our team. We could go

places together... and run them.

Hugs, kisses, fists, and blows,

Dee’s Advocate

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William Wallace

II

Member

posted 12-07-2000 03:57 PM

Church is now in session. The gospel has been preached.

Now, female comrades, I would urge you sisters to step forward and testify.

Todays question is for you, give us the most pussified man you have ever known and tell us

why you were sickened. Ever have a guy take you out "dutch", ever have a guy cry when

you dumped him, ever had a man so scared he took forever to ask you out, or maybe hasn't

even worked up the courage yet.

Testify!

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knowah

Junior Member

posted 12-07-2000 04:56 PM

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Just to defend myself, I do believe that Jesus did do some major butt-kicking, I never denied

that He did. However, He also did display some characteristics that I'm sure you consider to

be pussified. Reverend, you make some good points and put some thought into your

response, that's all I was looking for. However, I was referring to when Jesus wept over

Jerusalem in Luke 19. As much as you may not like to, Jesus did display some

characteristics that you may classify as being pussified. We cannot pick and choose the

characteristics of Jesus or God that we want to focus on. Many people like to think of God as

loving, but refuse to believe that He is also wrathful. To some extent it seems that you may

have gone to the opposite extreme. I firmly believe that Christ displayed a balance of

characteristics in His time on earth. Some of them you might classify as pussified, your

choice, not mine. The purpose in my asking these questions was (as I believe is the purpose

of the midrash approach to learning) to refine your belief and cause you to perhaps consider

something you had not considered before. I know I don't have the answers, and I hope that

you don't think that you do either. I ask questions to stimulate thought, at times this is

done from the devil's advocate standpoint for necessary reasons. This does not mean that I

think Jesus was a wuss. Are men nowadays weak? God knows I agree. Am I sickened by

this? YES! However, extremism is never the answer. There needs to be a balance of love

and rebuke, I'm just trying to make sure you don't forget the love.

In response to your earlier querries William, I'm 23, single, raised in a divorced home

(between both parents), God is soveriegn Lord of the universe, and of my life. I'm sure you

will find some way to discount what I say now or label me in some way, and I'm alright with

that. Also I believe you may have missed the main thrust of my original post, most likely

my fault. What are you doing to help? Are you just ranting to whoever will listen and

posting inflamatory messages on a BB, or are you seriously doing something? I am

interested to know. As far as responding to my questions, the only one you even halfway

responded to was one I asked only in jest. Please learn to listen, you will learn so much

from others (not necessarily me) that it will amaze you.

Dees, umm, did you read the agreement to join this bb? What do you say of God's coming

judgment that is promised in Revelation? Christ came the first time as a suffering servant in

fulfillment of prophecy (ISA 53). If you want to full on call God what you have, I pray for

you.

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William Wallace

II

Member

posted 12-07-2000 05:43 PM

Thank you for your response.

Yes, are movement is real. Right now we are laying out the Founding Fathers and our

Constitution. After this email I'm heading to a couple of pubs to find a nice place to begin

our Reformation, just like Luther did at the White Horse Inn pub in his day. Our numbers

are growing and we will be launching into other cities. Our name will remain secret, but you

may consider joining us and hosting your own. Our depussification process is simple:

1. Be a man.

2. Get other men.

3. Read the Bible and do what it says.

Off to my field trip.

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A_Corinthian

Member

posted 12-07-2000 08:28 PM

I will tell you all of a pussified man....A man who was a marine in the vietnam war, worked a

blue collar job at an oil refinery, drank beer, beat my mom and left the sceene. My pussified

father. Because of this pussified man, i was raised without a father. Just to let you know,

being raised with only a mother and two sisters in your life doesnt help in becomming a

man.... hell, i dont even know where to start. I do know that i am tired of this pansy ass,

self help, drive through theropy, vanilla latte, Gap, diet cola, buddy Jesus, you can be your

own god, nation that accepts (even tells us its ok) to be gay, have an affair, leave your wife

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and kids, look at internet porn, playboy, self gratifacation, and pretty much every kind of

sin that satan himself has done. Speaking from the point of a male in his 20's, if this is the

american dream, then cut off a nut of mine so i can "be more sensitive to other peoples

lifestyles"!!?? If it seems like im whinning, then give me a good kick in the ass..... praise

God, at least i'll finally be a real man to my future wife and kids.

--It is better to listen to the rebuke of a wise man, than for one to listen to the song of

FOOLS. Ecclesiates 7:5--- GO WALLACE

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lil' yoda

Junior Member

posted 12-07-2000 09:09 PM

"For He himself is our peace, who has made the two one, and has destroyed the barrier, the

dividing wall of hostility.

Eph. 2:14

Lord Wallace,

You remind me of an old friend of mine, and maybe that is giving you too much credit, since

I do not know you, and because I am likening you to one of the best friends I have ever

had. Nevertheless, I will err (for now) on giving you the benefit of the doubt.

At the same time, however, you also remind me a bit of the "Great Oz" angry and blustery,

full of contempt, fire and rage, so I am persuaded to wonder what slinks behind the curtain?

Something vulnerable it seems...and my heart goes out to you.

If you are as ready to fight as I think, I imagine my empathy makes you somewhat

nauseous. This is not my intent, but as Yoda would say "I sense much fear in you..."

But I am not being fair...

and perhaps I am hitting "below the belt", since you and I do not yet have the trust of

brothers in arms, and since it is our emasculation that we are so desperately trying to

reverse.

Know that you are not alone, we all have our ghosts to contend with and I am learning (the

hard way) that they cannot be dispatched with a sword. They still require courage, but the

courage of a whole man; a man who is not afraid of even the strongest woman's strength,

but attracted to it, and discovers that not only is his masculinity still intact, but it is

brimming over (even if he does the dishes).

Look man, be watchful as you form your band of fight club men. I believe you are

dangerously treading the path of Barabbas (or even Judas)

Love your enemies. Any man can do otherwise. Anything other than love requires zero

courage, only a deadening of spirit.

And no, I cannot sanctimoniously claim that I am anywhere near this. I am more of a

caveman when it comes to my family and their protection, and I, like Peter, have my sword

drawn, ready to "Van Gogh" the first dude who looks cross-eyed at my boy. And like Peter,

Jesus rebukes me for this.

Let's fight, indeed, we are in a war, and God calls us to be "warrior poets". Let Him be your

shield (not your rage), and may we bear his cross again and again, so the world may never

forget His love. His love... His sacrifice... His dominion... all these are more important than

anything, any dream or any word we could utter.

St. Thomas Aquinas once wrote, "I have seen things that make all my writings seem like

straw."

Let us fix our eyes upon these things...

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cell'me

Member

posted 12-07-2000 10:05 PM